@azullfr This is good to know. Maybe an admin can help report this?

I still find hanging around more or less anywhere is going to make one of these appear - if one is going to appear, that is!

@spirantcrayon22

I still find hanging around more or less anywhere is going to make one of these appear

that was also my case before the 1.4.1 Patch (in my 2 accounts) ... Now, it's no more the case in my 2 accounts ...

@ubi-borealis

Well, thanks for the response, at least sort-of.

How do these things actually function? I've asked repeatedly. That'll help us understand how to approach this and also help us avoid wasting time and so help Ubisoft look at the issue. How are they generated? Deaths? Random?

My experience, when they were common, was that they popped up more or less anywhere but definitely more likely in an enemy camp of some kind. They are definitely rarer at the moment than they have been previously. I have not had one at that farm for a long time and, as noted, don't bother going there. I have not failed to do any weekly Connect task.

Anyway, noted about paying attention to where they pop up, I'll try and do that.

@azullfr

Rarer right now, that's certain.

@ubi-borealis
Hello,
thanks for your response

About :

Could you let us know if there are any other specific locations where you've noticed Avenge Quests spawning more frequently, as this information could be useful for further investigation.

Well, I just can list the opposite = Before TU 1.4.1 I usually had avenge quests in my "routine" :

1. Fast travelling to Black Peak >> 1/4 time an avenge quest when spawning
2. 10 to 20 min stealthy cleaning Meldeburne >> 1/2 time = Avenge quest
3. 15 to 30 min stealthy cleaning entire Walden >> 1/3 time = Avenge quest
4. 15 to 30 min cleaning Forest Hideout and all the area around (woods with bears, wolves, bandits) >> 1/4 times >> Avenge quest

Since TU 1.4.1 in these places it's not even rarer ... it's simply none (except at the Scotthoh Farm)

This week I just could finish the quest at the Scotthoh Farm (like months ago when this problem was first reported, it was also during a weekly challenge) so I used that place as it was known to be a "reliable" one previously tested by a bunch of players.

Both affected saves (PS4 pro) are ready to use in my 2 accounts :
a2ullFR
azullFR

Note to "IdontKnowWhoAtUbi" : it will be nice if the people in charge of the challenges test them in real conditions (= same as players ones) before launching them
( I already tested all the previoulsy places, waiting up to 30-40 min at each place, even tested with another internet box on another internet line and with another internet wire... Now, with a 200Wh setup ... glad it's not an high-end PC... I won't test more )

@azullfr

Very good point about testing in "real world" conditions. Some of these bugs we've been reporting are impossible to miss yet somehow they're not picked up before release. Terraria 1.4 is a good comparison; they had a huge bug tht made it unplayable but it simply did not occur for them when testing. The thing was that the nature of their set-up meant they could not have picked it up. Within hours they acknowledged it and got to work.

I am convinced the avenge quest incidence rate is controlled on their end and is deliberate. It is too much a of a coincidence that the huge drop off in finding the avenge quests with TU1.4.1 coincided with the REPEATED avenge connect challenge week after week, when it used to be occasional. That combined with the window kills and horse trampling challenges just makes me think they are trying to consume play time.

I idled for 10min to get a quest at Scottoh Farm when 1.4.1 dropped and realized how ludicrous it was. I go afk during the addon check, afk whenever I get an auto-completing Reda quests, afk to get an avenge quest. Is this really how the devs envisioned the game being played? absently? If I'm going to be sitting there NOT playing, I might as well not fire it up at all. And when I AM playing, I'm doing something unenjoyable like running over chickens with my horse?! That plus the "*NEW* difficulty settings" which cannot even perform its most basic function... Its too much. I have rage-quit games before, but this is the first time I disgust-quit a game.

Am I missing a setting or am I only one in this server to die??? I have just recently started playing having stopped before either expansion. I remember seeing a revenge mission on my first mission on wrath of druids. Can not remember another. Saw inking how I can force it one. I'm a need and would rather revenge fellow nerd. Ty for any info ahead

@bigalboski53

Ubisoft has never told us exactly what it is that makes these events appear so it is hard to say how to force it to occur. Sometimes these quests are always appearing, other times they take ages to appear. I do not believe the location is important, other than they are more common in enemy camps. I also do not think they are related to whether anyone else has died.

The best method I can suggest is to go to an enemy camp and start killing. Eventually one should appear. There was a lot of talk about Scothoh farm in East Anglia so you could try there but I stopped going there because not many appeared.

@ubi-mushy

Excellent to read details on the mechanism. Many thanks.

I am unsure about the cool-down time; pretty sure that I've had them in much quicker succession than an hour.

@ubi-mushy
Many thanks for your response and for these details

as @SpirantCrayon22 before TU 1.4.1 I could have avenge quests in less than an hour, but in different places, maybe the 1 hour cooldown was per areas ?

I'm glad the team is looking into this and also that they gave to all of us (including you) some infos

@azullfr

I think I've had them close together in well under an hour. Doesn't matter, though, not like I go looking for the things!

@spirantcrayon22

I think I've had them close together in well under an hour.

thanks for the info, it happened also to me, but only once

Doesn't matter, though, not like I go looking for the things!

Not being English fluent I'm not sure of what you mean ...

1. Looking for avenge quest : I look for them only for weekly challenges when they are in a period of "almost non-existent avenge quest" like this week (again) : no single other choice ... (and I'm not alone in this case)
2. Looking for the game mechanisms : of course I'm curious about them and I'm looking for them (this is one of the reasons why I play AC Valhalla on 2 different accounts = to be sure that a behavior is the same or not, depending on the progress of the game or the choices made in the game for example, one thing I can not verify, for example, is a change in game behavior depending on the region of the server)

@azullfr

Oh, right, I mean that I do not look for these quests (unless it's for a weekly).

I did go to Scotthoh farm this week and a quest did appear fairly quickly. Now we've been told that getting killed is a trigger the old idea of going there and dying is good. I am happy to be wrong about that.

@ubi-mushy Thanks for the explanation. I hope the team fixes this ASAP as we have another Valkyrie's Dirty Work challenge this week...

@rcdeschene

I got one pretty quickly last night, faster than it has happened recently.

New test :

Account 1 (azullFR) :
Day 1 : waited at Scotthoh farm for 15 min = ok
Day 2 : no test

Account 2 (a2ullFR) :
Day 1 : waited at Scotthoh farm for 25 min = Nothing (25 min wait + 15 min killing, walking = 40 min)
Day 2 : waited at Scotthoh farm for 35 min = Nothing (35 min wait + 15 min killing, walking = 50 min)
Day 2 : waited at Meldeburne for 30 min = Nothing (30 min wait + 10 min killing, walking = 40 min)
[EDIT] : Day 2 / Session 2 : Waited at Ruined Tower for 20 min = ok >> Avenge at Scotthoh Farm
Total Account 2 "score" : more than 500W for 5 Opals ... (with a PS4 pro... glad to not have an high-end PC !)

Thanks Ubisoft for the buggy weekly challenge given a second time while you know it's bugged ...

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